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Capitalism_is_Theft said:
Bernie does. Bernie is a member and always has been. Bernie is a Democratic Socialist, and AOC is. She has mentioned it. The Republicans always call them commies and socialists over it all the time. It's a well known fact.
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I read that in the wiki article.
What I mean was it hasn't been mentioned in the international type news as a background item on any bio's.
 
Zeedox said:
I read that in the wiki article.
What I mean was it hasn't been mentioned in the international type news as a background item on any bio's.
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Um, then, I don’t know why ?

On the other hand, people on the left in Europe are aware that Bernie is a Democratic Socialist and AOC. Specially, the lefts in the EU who keep up. Perhaps, the average European may not be aware, the same as an American would be of the number of political parties in, Germany for that matter ?

And, it’s easy to see why at another level given the fact the rest of the world watched while it’s government, and capitalist empire, exterminated, and committed genocide on the political left for 45 years. It’s no wonder that what ever else anyone else had to Caucasus with one of the 2 parties.

like they had a fucking choice.

So, it’s no wonder, it’s hard to get the word out there’s another party running a candidate.

Can anyone name Ross Perot’s party ?
Can anyone name Ralph Naders party?
Can anyone name pick anyone you want..

Do you see what I’m saying?

The Democrats & Republicans sat back among themselves by design and let this happen, essentially since the founding of the country. Some democracy, right ?

The bloods and the crips.
 
You're own republicans did the same thing our conservatives did in letting the tea-party types in the party.
If the far-right does start its own party, breaking from republicans, the democrats will stay together vice splintering. I can see the right breaking before the left; the left is well aware of superiority in numbers
 
Zeedox said:
You're own republicans did the same thing our conservatives did in letting the tea-party types in the party.
If the far-right does start its own party, breaking from republicans, the democrats will stay together vice splintering. I can see the right breaking before the left; the left is well aware of superiority in numbers
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Possibly so...
That's what's played out in the past up to now, and it might just as well continue, based on that logic.

However, that's all things equal. That's presuming, things turn around? IF Biden and the Dems are successful? As Wolff has pointed out candidly so well, and articulated, as well as so many others; the centrist neoliberal train (It's really Reaganomics we all know), is simply an incremental conservative approach; that has created the conditions, that got us here 'now', which put Trump in to begin with, and will put a Trump successor back in the white house in 4-8 years, if it fails.

40 years of this crap, is what's brought us down to our knees to the standard across the nation where we are now. We create more billionaires growing in the field than good paying middle class jobs, with good benefits, or Union paying jobs, or college students free from 50-100K of student loan debt, cops that beat the hell out of people, veterans who sleep on floors defending politicians who are then kicked out into the capital hill parking garage by GOPers, we create more mass evictions than any country in the world, etc.

Shall I go on?

Here's another thing? Supposedly, Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden did a deal on bankruptcy reform. He gave into her 100% on what she originally wanted. How come I'm not hearing anything about it? Or what it was?

And, it seems that, it must be going to be an important thing coming soon in the future, soon down the road?

I would say on the other hand, it could be given the tread that those DSA folks will only grow in membership. That membership will and indicator of the rest of the population on the left out there "who don't join" of what their thinking.

To sum this up..... WE HAVE TO keep the pressure up from the Left, no matter what the outcome. Why? because, IF we don't the conservatives, big business, weak democrats, Joe Manchin types, and obviously Mitch McConnell with his billionaire friends will try to steam roll over the top of Joe Biden. Period. --- That's why. If Joe doesn't feel counter pressure, he may feel inclined to back down and compromise to them.
 
Capitalism_is_Theft said:
Possibly so...
That's what's played out in the past up to now, and it might just as well continue, based on that logic.

However, that's all things equal. That's presuming, things turn around? IF Biden and the Dems are successful? As Wolff has pointed out candidly so well, and articulated, as well as so many others; the centrist neoliberal train (It's really Reaganomics we all know), is simply an incremental conservative approach; that has created the conditions, that got us here 'now', which put Trump in to begin with, and will put a Trump successor back in the white house in 4-8 years, if it fails.

40 years of this crap, is what's brought us down to our knees to the standard across the nation where we are now. We create more billionaires growing in the field than good paying middle class jobs, with good benefits, or Union paying jobs, or college students free from 50-100K of student loan debt, cops that beat the hell out of people, veterans who sleep on floors defending politicians who are then kicked out into the capital hill parking garage by GOPers, we create more mass evictions than any country in the world, etc.

Shall I go on?

Here's another thing? Supposedly, Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden did a deal on bankruptcy reform. He gave into her 100% on what she originally wanted. How come I'm not hearing anything about it? Or what it was?

And, it seems that, it must be going to be an important thing coming soon in the future, soon down the road?

I would say on the other hand, it could be given the tread that those DSA folks will only grow in membership. That membership will and indicator of the rest of the population on the left out there "who don't join" of what their thinking.

To sum this up..... WE HAVE TO keep the pressure up from the Left, no matter what the outcome. Why? because, IF we don't the conservatives, big business, weak democrats, Joe Manchin types, and obviously Mitch McConnell with his billionaire friends will try to steam roll over the top of Joe Biden. Period. --- That's why. If Joe doesn't feel counter pressure, he may feel inclined to back down and compromise to them.
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You do realize you're speaking to the choir. We're not the ones needing convincing.
 
Zeedox said:
You do realize you're speaking to the choir. We're not the ones needing convincing.
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😐 Down here it's always being in a convincing mode to morons over half the time or better, trying to explain things that should seem fundamental at some level. You would find it amazing how minds have been twisted backwards to such "singular" motives against their own best interest, their neighbors best interest, and ultimately their country's best interest. All under the guise of, misaligned destructive conditioning of the system.
 

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How Republicans Are Trying to Use the Green Party to Their Advantage (Published 2020)

The G.O.P. has sought to help Green Party candidates in previous election cycles to siphon votes from Democrats. This year is no different — but it hasn’t always worked.
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And, every election you find the this party running on the ballot ^ The Green Party. And, it's put there for a reason. Remember Jill Stein? It's only purpose in the U.S. is to drain votes from the Democratic Party every time. And, it also is funded by The Republican party $$. It definitely made an impact on the 2016 Election and helped put Donald Trump in the white house. It cost Hillary Clinton dearly in the Blue Wall States. And Jill Stein had good table manners with Vladimir Putin, just as good as Steven Bannon. Of course, Jill dressed better than Steven Bannon did, Steve looked like he has slept in an alley, and played with the cats and polished off a bottle of cheap booze rolling around in that alley before he came, and didn't comb his hair, but Putin didn't mind.



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And, you got these bat shit crazies. People such as Rand Paul (R) belong to this philosophy, it is all funded by the KOCH Bros.
They are always on the ticket, to make sure they can re-capture disgruntled republicans to get them back on board working for their wacko corporate angularities.
 
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Amazon tries to delay warehouse union vote in Alabama

Amazon wants warehouse workers in Bessemer to vote in person.
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*** ^ This will fall into number 1 and 3. { read below from my quoted excerpts from above }

Proposed solutions can be grouped into three categories: (1) policy fixes, particularly labor law reform; (2) technical fixes, including sophisticated organizing techniques and comprehensive campaign strategies; and (3) political fixes, including electing sympathetic politicians and winning regulatory reforms like minimum wage hikes.

This will and, could be one of Joe's first Labor challenges, that will come his way, just as Barack Obama was faced with during the,---{ see below }

"Most recently, Barack Obama promised to pass the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) during his 2008 presidential run. EFCA would have made forming a union much easier for workers and stiffened penalties for employers who retaliate against workers for union activity. Unions hoped the act would reverse labor’s declining fortunes, but it went down to defeat, and labor’s decline continued apace (Lichtenstein 2010).

Little more background on the EFCA -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_Free_Choice_Act

Now, here is one of our first Unions examples. "let us track this story here and find out what happens as the story moves forward."
 

If only you can get the average American to understand this, and unite around this instead of a "Cartoon dictator, who tells lies, while they wear Red Hats, and get themselves arrested, while unwittingly, working for the ends of the billionaire class who are cutting their throats behind the curtain of Capitalism.

IF Only.

Poor idiots don't understand that these are the people higher up who are standing on their throats with a knee. If anything is worth a real French Revolution, it's this. And that's no BS. That's what the 1% is really petrified of, it's not a bunch of idiots running around in MAGA hats.

The real protest was late last summer. And, the protest that should occur "still has not occurred yet." And, I'm not talking about a MAGA protest, let me be clear about that.

The real sleeping GIANT is waiting on the LEFT. Sure, there's only a fledging little DSA party, they promote non-violence; but once they are triggered the right way, all Hell will break loose.

It's the quiet one's you have to watch out for. (always)
 
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