Biden ousting staffers for pot use -- even when they only smoked in states where it's legal: report

[Gomez Adams]

Most of the United States is "at will" employment. Workers in at will have no rights.

Most companies, on their applications, will tell you the have a zero tolerance drug policy. Drug tests are mostly mandatory for employment with random testing after employment.

You ever test positive, you're fired.

That's all there is to it.

And here, there are no protections for companies for lawsuits regarding drug using employees.

Quite the contrary, if a worker causes an injury and tests positive for drugs, the company is seen as negligent for not properly testing its employees.

The U.S. is nothing like Canada at all when it comes to the work place and drugs.

 

[Capitalism_is_Theft]

Nicole Wallace.

Former White House Communications Director for George W. Bush. Now, works for MSNBC.

She smoked and did lots of marijuana prior to the white house, and in college and else where, no 7 year rule, or any of that stuff. George W. Bush didn't care one bit. Bush, said, "Meh..." He was more liberal about it than anyone! Amazing. She got the job, and MSNBC gave her the this job.

I just got done searching the web, and I can't find anything now. Before, you could find loads of links on this story. So, you're wondering why I know about this?

I know because, "Nicole Wallace told the entire story "live in all full specific detail" while on the panel that night with all 5 !! MSNBC News Hosts sitting beside her on election night! I watched and listened to the entire story of her Pot use, and how George W. Bush waved her right into the Whitehouse! And, she said, "it was that simple!"

She said, "I would not be sitting right here now in this job with you tonight most likely, IF he had not done that, as a political commentator." "Of course, i'm not a Republican anymore, because of how the GOP has fallen to pieces with Trump."

Her take was totally different.... And she 'was' a republican.

Yea, The monsters in the GOP will damn right carve up the Democrats with those stances.... Now, I don't know what they answer is? I'm not trying to get in the middle of that.

I don't smoke Marijuana. I never have. I never could afford getting caught with it, or smoking it. In the military, or now in my life going to the V.A.

If V.A. catches you smoking M.J. with blood work, or a urine test, ( and they give them ), or you get in trouble with the law with M.J. They will cut ALL of your VA Benefits across the board by 50% !!!! - automatic. Cash$ and all other benefits. Uncle Sam means it.

Whether that's right or wrong: that's open for debate! But, those are facts. Uncle Sam does not screw around.

Anyway,,,, Yea, Nicole Wallace got put through this; but W Bush; was forgiving. I don't if it had something about his HIDDEN Drug past buried down in Texas or not ? Could be? Who knows?

Republicans are good a hiding and sealing records from the public.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

That's badass man. About GW and all. Personally I'm just sick to death of all the marijuna hate. Seriously I'm just fucking sick of it. Nobody has a problem with a drunk sloshing around, beating up on women, driving into a family of 4 killing them. They don't reform or restrict alcohol.

But let a guy smoke a joint after a hard days work, relax, eat a good dinner and hit the sack and he's fucking public enemy number one as far as the feds go. Well fuck the feds then. This shit has gone on long enough. When you glorify drinking as a social thing and frown upon smoking a fucking joint to relax and unwind then you're on the wrong side of common sense.

 

[Gomez Adams]

To take that a step further: the part I hate the most is the restriction on veterans.

Lets face it, if anybody could use marijuana it should be veterans. The relaxing features alone would aide so many in PTSD, many pain issues, and who knows what else.

 

[Capitalism_is_Theft]

To take that a step further: the part I hate the most is the restriction on veterans.

Lets face it, if anybody could use marijuana it should be veterans. The relaxing features alone would aide so many in PTSD, many pain issues, and who knows what else.

Why just about 2 weeks ago when I was out there, one of the nurse/aides had mentioned to the doctors that a VET was going to self medicate with MJ. And, the doctor told her, "I can't give permission for that, I can't tell him not to either. He said, I'm in an obvious catch 22 on this issue, he knows that." I was setting near the window, and I then heard the nurse say, "I didn't know what to say to him? I know he's hurting. I know he wants some kind of help. I know that he doesn't even like that stuff Dr. He has never really used much of it in his life." Dr. " I know. It probably will help him..... How much I don't know, but I can't tell him from this office her to use it."

See, it's all about the Feds being in control, at the VA. The doctors have to go by VA guidelines.

There are things they can do. Surprisingly, some things they can. But, it's that FEDERAL Hang up over the drug thing. Ever since Richard Nixon started the War on Drugs. Nothing has really changed.

But, YEA... The VETS, "Could really benefit from the MJ Plant...... There's no doubt about it"

 

[Zeedox]

There's a whole vet program up here. Benefits included.

 

[Grimhogun]

With all due respect Gomez you're talking about the way things are. Everybody else is talking about the way things should be.

 

[Zeedox]

To be fair, I'm the one who asked originally, over confusion about existing rules. I was a bit shocked between what I thought was the way the US government was heading now (in regards to previous use) and the way it's playing out.

Gomez simple continued because I'm fucking shocked at how much control your employers have over your personal life and asked questions..

 

[Gomez Adams]

I'm fucking shocked at how much control your employers have over your personal life and asked questions..

Ha! This is just the tip of the iceberg.

So it's illegal to discriminate for a job due to race in this country. If that's the case, why are they allowed to ask for your race on a job application? The hire should be made based on experience listed and the interview, yet that's the first thing they ask after your name: your race.

There is no requirement that an employee offer vacation time or any paid time off for any reason. There is a federal requirement for leave in a family emergency, but it is unpaid and in most cases results in your termination if you use it.

There is no such thing as "wrongful termination".

It just goes on and on and on. The United States was built on slave labor. It continues to do so.

 

[Gomez Adams]

And then of course, there's Ben Lee's take on it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1373151143107330049

 

[Zeedox]

All employment here (not under the table) at a minimum gets 4% of wages as 'vacation pay'. Some employers pay each pay-day, some when you request time off and still others when you no longer work for them.

I've had jobs with each of those payment plans.

 

[Gomez Adams]

Here's how the U.S. works in a nutshell:

In 1984 when I got my first job while still in high school, the minimum wage was $3.35 per hour. It is now, 37 years later, at $7.25.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average that year at its highest was around 1,200. It is now 32,627 as of Friday's close.

So the minimum wage in the last 37 years has increased 116.4%
The wealth of the Dow stock holders has increased 2,619%

That right there says it all.