Federal government invokes Emergencies Act

[Zeedox]

I would deem a three week occupation violent. This started as a supposed weekend protest but grew to much more longer period of intimidation, ultimately calling for the removal of a recently democratically-elected government.

I mean Jan 6th was one day...you tell me what they'd do to people who led a three week occupation of Washington...

 

[Gomez Adams]

Again, I've not heard of her assaulting anybody. I've not heard of her encouraging anybody to hurt anybody. I've not heard of her doing anything violent at all.

All she did was set up the Go Fund Me campaign. That's it. They charged her with counselling to commit mischief. From one article I read about it it said:

The most common use of mischief in the context of protests relates to interference with someone’s rights either to work or access property or tools, said Martin Peters, a Vancouver criminal lawyer.​

You deny bail for that? Wow. That's quite something.

 

[Zeedox]

relates to interference with someone’s rights either to work or access property or tools,

Here's some maps of the area where the protest was that shut down businesses, disturbed neighborhoods, closed malls, closed restaurants and generally kept people in that area from any sort of normality for three weeks.






You also seem to forget this isn't America.

I'm not sure about your mischief laws. Here\:

What you need to know about mischief charges and the Ottawa protests

VANCOUVER - Some of the most high-profile organizers of protests against government and COVID-19 mandates in Ottawa are facing charges that include mi...

www.thestar.com

A mischief charge under the Criminal Code is extremely flexible, covering a wide range of possible offences from interfering with computer data to mischief endangering life or causing death.

The most common use of mischief in the context of protests relates to interference with someone’s rights either to work or access property or tools, said Martin Peters, a Vancouver criminal lawyer.

What is counselling to commit mischief?

Counselling involves leading or telling someone to commit mischief.

What are the consequences of conviction?

Kicking a wall could result in a fine, while mischief to a war memorial or blocking significant portions of downtown could see up to 10 years of jail time, Toronto criminal lawyer Karen McArthur said.


In the most severe cases the maximum sentence is life imprisonment, Peters said.

While Peters said counselling to commit mischief should carry similar consequences to mischief itself, McArthur said this case could see prosecutors push for harsher penalties.

The counselling charge could be taken more seriously, as it puts organizers like Tamara Lich and Chris Barber in a leadership role of “an organization that had lots of tentacles,” she said.

Don't forget The War Memorial AND The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were both desecrated by the group she was one of the leaders of.

 

[Zeedox]

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www.cbc.ca

One of the leaders of the three-week occupation in Ottawa will remain in jail until at least Friday when a judge will decide whether he will be released on bail.

Alberta resident Pat King sat through his first bail hearing all day Tuesday that focused, for the most part, on his proposed surety who pledged $50,000 to ensure King won't violate his bail conditions.

King faces four charges related to his involvement in the occupation including mischief, counselling to commit the offence of mischief, counselling to commit the offence of disobey court order, and counselling to commit the offence of obstruct police.

Here's the kicker for this one

At Tuesday's bail hearing, fellow Albertan Kerry Komix was put forward as King's proposed surety, which means she would put money forward on behalf of King and encourage him to maintain conditions of bail.

She pledged $50,000 of equity on her home, roughly half its value, against King's bail despite the fact she has only known him for about four weeks, Komix told the court.

 

[Zeedox]

Good intro to our constitution and the differences from others.

www.tiktok.com/@mr.teacher.guy/video/7057307081409400070


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[Gomez Adams]

You also seem to forget this isn't America.

No, I haven't. It's just that Canadians typically look down their noses at the "brutality" of the U.S. Legal System so it's very surprising that they're so restrictive on who gets bail.

Our 8th amendment states:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Pretty simple. So the idea that a lady guilty of nothing but basically obstruction / mischief is absolutely refused bail of any kind is odd to me. The case in point are the January 6th rioters. Most were granted bail the same day they were arrested. Only those that took part in violence, threats and destruction were held without bail.

Now, here, you can't give "part" of the equity of your home. It's typically cash, bond or property lean. You'd have to sign your entire house over. Bail bondsman is a business here. For 10% of the bond they will pay the bail.

Bail is also set by the state / federal government depending on who is charging the crime. The only time bail would be denied would be in extremely violent cases or serious flight risks cases or some combination of both. Epstein and Maxwell were both denied bail for being a flight risk they couldn't control.

In a case like hers, she would probably have gotten bail set at 6 figures (100,000 or so) which she could have met with a property bond. Then in a case this big she probably would have conditions as well, such as house arrest and wearing an ankle monitor.

 

[Zeedox]

If you watch the tiktok on our constitution you'll see why this happened the way it did.

 

[Gomez Adams]

Meanwhile, the truckers in D.C. say "hold our beer":

 

[Zeedox]

Get ready for the nazi's...

 

[Gomez Adams]

I tell you, EVERYBODY is posting fake / false information.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497050532996804613

That is a lie. It's actually a Ukrainian jets shot down by a SAM.

 

[Zeedox]

There's going to be a lot of that

 

[Zeedox]

‘Freedom Convoy’ organizer Pat King denied bail

King is the second convoy organizer whose bid to get out from behind bars was rejected this week, after protest spokesperson Tamara Lich was denied bail on Tuesday.

www.thestar.com

Pat King, a far-right influencer accused of spurring protesters to break the law during the so-called “Freedom Convoy” occupation around Parliament Hill, will remain in jail after he was denied bail in a downtown Ottawa courtroom on Friday.

King is the second convoy organizer whose bid to get out from behind bars was rejected this week, after protest spokesperson Tamara Lich was denied bail on Tuesday.

Just as in Lich’s case, King’s bail bid was blocked on grounds that he presented a “substantial likelihood” that he would reoffend if released, and that this would damage public faith in the criminal justice system.