Chauvin found guilty of murder, manslaughter in George Floyd's death

[Gomez Adams]

If there's a limit on the number of potential jury members you can exclude then the possibility of a bad juror is always there.

That's true, hence the alternate jurors. If a juror proves to be unreasonable or is accused of bad faith or misconduct then they are excused and replaced by one of the alternate jurors.

It's not an everyday occurrence, but it does happen.

That's going to be a prosecution argument, I'm sure: when did you get this picture?

Because if it was at any time during the trial, they should have moved to exclude that particular juror in favor of one of the alternates. If it was after the trial, then one would wonder why it wasn't discovered until then?

There's a lot of arguments to be made, but bottom line that fellow should have been more forthcoming about his attitude with BLM. The question was simple: would you or anybody you know ever take part in a BLM protest?

Clearly, the answer should have been yes. He was donning the gear, hanging out with like minded people. For all we know they left that bar and went straight to a BLM protest. The fact that he clearly supports the movement is enough that he should have answered yes.

No judge is going to look favorably on a juror that lies no matter what the excuse.

We'll see. I hope that lone idiot doesn't blow a wonderful case put on by the prosecution and a just judgement.

 

[Zeedox]

There's a lot of arguments to be made, but bottom line that fellow should have been more forthcoming about his attitude with BLM. The question was simple: would you or anybody you know ever take part in a BLM protest?

Clearly, the answer should have been yes. He was donning the gear, hanging out with like minded people.

That's quite the leap, supporting is protesting.

For all we know they left that bar and went straight to a BLM protest.

For all we know he went home to bed.

The fact that he clearly supports the movement is enough that he should have answered yes.

I support a Northern Ireland free from the evils of the British Crown.
Some people support free choice in the abortion debate.
Some people support Trump.

None of that supports equals a protest.

 

[Gomez Adams]

I support a Northern Ireland free from the evils of the British Crown.
Some people support free choice in the abortion debate.
Some people support Trump.

None of that supports equals a protest.

No, but if you support Northern Ireland, and you're being questioned for jury duty on a Northern Irishman that has allegedly killed an Irishman, and you lie and say you don't support Northern Ireland and you vote to find him guilty and they find out about it...

 

[Zeedox]

The question was simple: would you or anybody you know ever take part in a BLM protest?

Again supporting a cause is not equal to "taking part in a protest.".

 

[Gomez Adams]

Again supporting a cause is not equal to "taking part in a protest.".

It is when you are asked if you support it and you lie.

That could have been used as a disqualifier. You, by lying, taint the entire voir dire process.

 

[Zeedox]

The question was simple: would you or anybody you know ever take part in a BLM protest?

It is when you are asked if you support it and you lie.

Nothing you have shown me says he was asked if he "supported it".

The only thing I've seen presented is "would you take part in a".

If some defense attorney failed to ask the correct question during jury selection by saying "taking part in a" instead of "support" then Chauvin has a problem with his attorney's competence.

 

[Gomez Adams]

We'll see what happens.

On the bright side, if they give him new trial I don't think those defense experts will testify again. The prosecution made them look like idiots.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

It's a desperate attempt. It won't work. The fucker is going away.

 

[Gomez Adams]

Well, now there's this:

Federal grand jury charges 4 former Minneapolis cops with violating George Floyd’s civil rights — Chauvin also charged in teen arrest

Derek Chauvin and other former Minneapolis cops were indicted for civil rights violations weeks after a jury convicted Chauvin of murdering George Floyd.

www.cnbc.com

If they thought they had problems before, they're flat out screwed now.

 

[Zeedox]

 

[Grimhogun]

Chauvin Will face life in federal prison for that. God I hope that bastard gets it.

 

[Zeedox]

Ruling paves way for longer sentence in George Floyd's death

A Minnesota judge has found aggravating factors in the death of George Floyd. The ruling made public Wednesday paves the way for the possibility of a longer sentence for former Minneapolis Officer Derek Chauvin.

apnews.com

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A Minnesota judge has ruled that there were aggravating factors in the death of George Floyd, paving the way for the possibility of a longer sentence for Derek Chauvin, according to an order made public Wednesday.

In his ruling dated Tuesday, Judge Peter Cahill found that Chauvin abused his authority as a police officer when he restrained Floyd last year and that he treated Floyd with particular cruelty. He also cited the presence of children when he committed the crime and the fact Chauvin was part of a group with at least three other people.