Texas Goes Permitless on Guns, and Police Face an Armed Public

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Far from an outlier, Texas, with its new law, joined what has been an expanding effort to remove nearly all restrictions on carrying handguns. When Alabama’s “permitless carry” law goes into effect in January, half of the states in the nation, from Maine to Arizona, will not require a license to carry a handgun.

The state-by-state legislative push has coincided with a federal judiciary that has increasingly ruled in favor of carrying guns and against state efforts to regulate them.

Just another nail in the coffin of tourism...
 
I really don't get why people think that way. Kemp did the same thing in Georgia and nothing has happened.

Criminals carry guns all the time. They don't care about the law. It's not going to change a thing for them because they're doing it already.

The only thing it changed is that people like me don't have to pay fees every few years to renew a license. That's it.

People that think that permitless carry is going to "make it a war zone" are assuming that suddenly, for no particular reason, people like me are going to go on the rampage and start shooting people at will.

It simply hasn't happened. At all. It never will.

It's like saying that if they removed the need for a drivers license, suddenly everybody that has ever driven is going to go out, get drunk and smash into a family of 5 as fast as possible.

It's a completely ridiculous assumption with no foundation in fact whatsoever.

That's why you haven't seen one single headline in Georgia or nationally about it since Kemp signed it into law. A whole bunch of fear mongering bullshit and then dead silence.

The same thing, which is absolutely nothing, will happen in Texas.
 




 
Look at your own articles.

They were all perpetrated by people committing a crime or while a crime was in progress. It has changed nothing. It wasn't some law abiding citizen that went on the rampage. This shit was happening long before the law went into effect.

Even your own headline says "since 2015" where it's been happening over and over again.

Jesus man...be better than that.
 
First and fifth stories aren't those types at all.

First - victim attempts to shoot fleeing robber and shoots little girl.
Fifth - Good guys with guns don’t only shoot bad guys. At least 47 times since 2015, a person has shot a friend, family member, or emergency responder they mistook for an intruder in their home.



Idiots with no training allowed to carry weapons.

Out of curiosity exactly how many people do have to die ???
 
First - victim attempts to shoot fleeing robber and shoots little girl.
And that happens all the time. Innocent people get shot literally all the freaking time. It is nothing at all new. The law didn't cause it.

At least 47 times since 2015, a person has shot a friend, family member, or emergency responder they mistook for an intruder in their home.
Correct. That is not something the new law caused. It literally happens all of the time.

Out of curiosity exactly how many people do have to die ???
That's not a question about this law. That's a 2nd amendment question to which there is no answer.

The absolute fact of the matter is that neither the Texas or Georgia or the other 14 states that already have open carry caused any of it like you're pretending it did.
 
Ok, here you go:

More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2020 than in any other year on record, according to recently published statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). That included a record number of gun murders, as well as a near-record number of gun suicides.​
Now then, both Texas and Georgia's no license law went into effect in mid 2021. So it has nothing to do with it. The pandemic in general has a lot more to do with the increase in crime the last three years than anything else.

On gun laws: I've said literally for decades that we need to do two things:
  1. Lock down the private sales and gun show loopholes by implementing a universal background check on ALL gun sales, private and show on top of gun stores. Right now, a 10 time convicted killer can buy a gun pretty much anywhere except a brick and mortar gun store without a background check. I can literally walk in to any gun store, buy anything I want, walk out the door and sell it all to the first person I meet for a dollar and there's no law against it. I have absolutely ZERO responsibilities for any gun I sell.
  2. Apply the same laws to long guns that we have on hand guns. Presently, there are pretty much no laws of any kind governing long guns. That includes ALL OF THEM.
That alone in about 20 years would cut gun violence in half at least, if not more. It would take time for all the illegal guns to be confiscated as they're used to commit crimes on top of people getting jail time for selling without getting a background check.

But once those two laws passed, it would be a huge win. Sadly, they never will. The gun lobby has too much money and it's too political a hot topic for any politician to touch.

There's only one way on earth I see any real gun reform happening in this country: If for some reason everybody went after Judges at all levels and politicians at all levels.

If people started knocking off a few local, state, federal and SCOTUS judges on top of a few local city councilmen, mayors, governors, congressman and several senators, you'd have gun reform of a SERIOUS nature passed in a week or less.

If it doesn't effect them directly, they'll never change it because the political cost is too high.

But it's not just them; it's everybody.

Take that guy Fred Guttenberg, the big anti-gun advocate that's in D.C. every other weekend for instance. He lost his daughter to a school shooting. I absolutely hate it for him. But you know where he was before that happened?

Nowhere. He didn't give a shit any more than anybody else did.

Nobody cares until it's them that gets hit, and that, sadly, it what it's going to take the United States to ever do anything about guns: the people that run the country getting hit.

Then and only then will things ever change.
 
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