SpaceX Starship Thread

Yea, I mean he sends that car into outer space. That to me ( however, it was cool and novel it was ) seemed a bit, well, kinda nerdy flamboyant, attention getting, stunt, almost "Trump-like" maneuver. I don't know about Elon Musk he seems "outlandish" almost eccentric in the way he goes about things.

I think he himself is not totally stupid; however, the things he does winds up appearing stupid, and when it's said and done misguided when you stand back and look "at the big picture." It's like he's seems to have over looked something about the total overall design picture scope, because he was more worried about the up close success of the project, than the over all purpose. Another words how does the old saying go ?

You can't see the forest for the trees? Or, is it you can't see the trees for the forest ? Maybe in his case it's the first one?

I really don't know ?

I think NASA has more of it's "oars" in the water it seems.
 
Elon has never really made anything on his own. It's his brother that's the real genius.

His first solo endeavor, Solar City, was a complete flop that is so far in debt he made Tesla buy it out a few years back.

Sure, Elon is very rich now and all that jazz, but to this day one thing holds true: He has never once accomplished anything he said he would accomplish. There's always some sort of failure, or put off, or delay, or something. The 30,000 dollar model 3, completely autonomous driving, Tesla Taxi cabs, Starship orbiting 'round the moon, none of it happened.

And people just keep hurling money at him. It's like Uber. No matter how horribly in debt they go people keep on giving them more money on the "hopes" they turn profitable.

Remember when you had to turn a profit to make money? Now, it's all trick accounting and debt manipulation. That's how they're all getting disgustingly rich.
 
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All you hear are those we noses over on Fox and Fox Business News over there like Lou Dobbs and company and Varney and all those Capitalist creeps that shame, and preach lies about how the gods of capitalism rain down nothing but money from heaven like manta, if you preach and believe in the gospel of capitalism, and believe in those "myths." And, be careful that those evil socialist are out to get you. Yes, you must believe that those profits just rail right on in $

But, in the real reality is just as you describe up above. It's a Ponzi scheme of hiding the losses in clever ways to stay in business, to hide the fact that capitalism doesn't always work out, or if you're a failed loser you can keep fooling people and living large, and getting away with it.

This proves how Trump has been the con artist that he has been for decades.
 
Gomez Adams said:
Elon has never really made anything on his own. It's his brother that's the real genius.

His first solo endeavor, Solar City, was a complete flop that is so far in debt he made Tesla buy it out a few years back.

Sure, Elon is very rich now and all that jazz, but to this day one thing holds true: He has never once accomplished anything he said he would accomplish. There's always some sort of failure, or put off, or delay, or something. The 30,000 dollar model 3, completely autonomous driving, Tesla Taxi cabs, Starship orbiting 'round the moon, none of it happened.

And people just keep hurling money at him. It's like Uber. No matter how horribly in debt they go people keep on giving them more money on the "hopes" they turn profitable.

Remember when you had to turn a profit to make money? Now, it's all trick accounting and debt manipulation. That's how they're all getting disgustingly rich.
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When you put it that way pretty much everything everybody tries is pretty fucking stupid. If I could do something pretty fucking stupid and wind up a billionaire believe me I'd be all over it. I'd be the stupidest mother fucker the world had ever seen with pride. I'd be laughing all the way to the bank and the Bahama's.

If Elon doesn't do anything else he's done one remarkable thing that no government, no lobby, no force on earth could have ever done. He's made automakers take making electric cars seriously. They're having to fucking do it now.

Elon did that. If everything else he ever did in his life is a scam then so fucking be it. It would be worth it just for the serious and really useable electric car.
 
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The battery system from his Solar City days was brilliant. Here in the states though, it was crushed by power companies so it never took off.

His solar roofing system never came to light either. Musk is presently fighting off lawsuits over all things Solar City. It's going to wind up costing him hundreds of millions of dollars before it's all over.

Meanwhile, Tesla holds a value higher than the next 5 car companies combined.

Tesla trades at over 1000% of it's gross income. According to every business model ever made, that's impossible.

At some point, it's going to crash and crash hard. It's only a matter of time.
 
I still would hate to be sitting on the seat of one of his damn rockets, backing down in reverse on the pad, and get blown the fuck up when I'm strapped in! I mean like insta-reblasting off again suddenly, but in pieces.
 
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Part of his problems in the states is the companies want compensation for home solar not even hooked onto a grid.

Because it "hurtz der profitz". (no pun intended)
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Yes and no.

The issue was selling back to the grid per se. In the beginning it actually worked very well but it was breaking power companies.

The way you sold solar to people was that they could sell the power they weren't using back to the grid and cut their power bills. That made the huge investment required to get solar worth getting it: it would, over a 12 to 15 year period, pay for itself.

But what power companies did was ban together and file suit saying that homeowners should have to pay to sell power back to the grid to help maintain it. They won.

The argument was that home owners were benefitting from a power grid they never paid to maintain. So what happened then was you had to pay to use the grid to sell your power, effectively removing any bonus you would ever have of getting solar power.

That is what killed solar in the States. Completely. Only the very wealthy can afford it now. I actually looked into it years ago and I wanted the Tesla battery system. To get it all installed and up and running would have cost around 75,000 dollars with the programs running at the time. It would have taken about 12 years to pay for itself and would have lasted roughly 20 years, so we would have gotten about 7 or 8 years of pure free energy in the long run.

Now, all of that is gone. That same system today would cost around double that at 150,000 dollars. It would then take 20 to 25 years to pay it off. In effect, we would have to replace it BEFORE it was even paid off making it not an investment but a rather huge liability.
 
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They do that in the building I work in. They generate power. And, they never use it all. They send back a + amount back to our local grid. And, they get a huge credit back to their bill.

The thing is if there is an interruption of their co-generation system, and it goes down for longer than about an hour, and get fix or get it back up again, the local power utility hit's them with a $ fine.

There's all kinds of deals behind the "gig." A lot of maintenance is spent on it each year. And, they burn natural gas. So, they must be making a profit somehow or else they wouldn't be doing it ?
 
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