Matt Gaetz Thread

That's what I mean. The agreement most likely had a conviction (for Gaetz) clause. When he (Greenberg) bullshitted and there was no conviction (of Gaetz or even a possibility) he lost
 
That's what I mean. The agreement most likely had a conviction (for Gaetz) clause. When he (Greenberg) bullshitted and there was no conviction (of Gaetz or even a possibility) he lost
That doesn't exist.

Typically, when you make a deal here, it has nothing to do with a conviction. That would actually be illegal here because it could be construed as subornation of perjury.

What they do is offer you leniency based on your cooperation. You cooperate, you don't do as much time.

But they're not going to tell you what that is. Otherwise, it can be construed as subornation of perjury.

He made the deal, then made a bunch of shit up. He was never going to get off scot free. But if any of his information had been worth anything, he would have gotten a lot less time.

Since nothing he told them was ever true, they put the screws to him for stringing them along.

A conviction had, and legally can not have, anything to do with it.
 

Well....this is interesting. Apparently 11 was because he did cooperate. I think there's more here then we know.
 

Well....this is interesting. Apparently 11 was because he did cooperate. I think there's more here then we know.
He plead guilty to 33 crimes originally. Most of them were misdemeanors with only months to each of them, only 4 of them were felonies. He was facing a total of 20 years because all the crimes would run concurrently.

First off, nobody gets the max anymore. Some January 6th defendants were facing more time than that and only wound up getting 7 or 8 years.

The 11 year sentence is a bitch slap for wasting their time. He probably would have gotten less if he had not cooperated to begin with.
 

Well....this is interesting. Apparently 11 was because he did cooperate. I think there's more here then we know.



"He had a lawyer who realized that the only pathway to reduce his sentence time was to cooperate. Greenberg was looking at up to three decades in prison for his crimes. He was sentenced to 11 years. That's a significant departure. That was due to his cooperation."
 
They're lying to save face.

Example: Michael Cohen was facing 24 years in prison. He got 18 months after cooperating. You don't cooperate and still get shafted like that. Ever. If that were the case, nobody would have any reason to cooperate. He would have in all likelihood gotten the same sentence or less even if he hadn't.

Edit to add: Even Paul Manafort, who was facing 35 years, didn't get sentenced to that much time. He got 7. And he didn't cooperate at all.
 
It is officially over.

Investigation closed, no charges filed.


All they ever had was Greenberg's stories. There was never any evidence to back any of it up, so it came down to credibility.

And Greenberg has absolutely zero credibility.
 
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