Joe Manchin.

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Joe Manchin.

LBJ, would have chewed him up and spit him out back in his day! LBJ, would have grabbed him up buy his little boy collar and haulled his ass up off his feet! And, after he got down braw beating him, and setting him back down on his little toes, "he would have crawled away like a little mouse!"

That's what LBJ would have done with Joe Manchin ! Make no fucking mistake about that shit!

He would have prayed that LBJ would not have taken anything away from his state !!
 

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He has a point.
Yes, he does.

Not in LBJ's day.
Yes, he does.

LBJ would never in a million years draft a government handout to people making 350,000 dollars per year.

Biden's plan presently does that.

And it was a cheap, petty, dumbassed move for Harris to go on a pressure campaign against Manchin in his own back yard without ever having so much as talked to him.

That is the kind of moronic move that will make Manchin shoot down the dem majority to put Harris in her place.

CATEGORICALLY stupid and cheap move on her part.
 

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We all know that Manchin is a Republican in Democratic cloths, a fence straddler, technically a friend to know no one. ( a another next crop Joe Liberman, ) Already almost converted over to the GOP once already, he almost might as well caucus with Republicans and get it over with.

He opposes just about everything with Republican talking points, just like he does even on this bill. Just like the tax brackets/income brackets like the Republicans. He's been spotted repeatedly, huddling with Republicans behind the scenes, in open chambers, and around corners, other democrats have spied on him and caught him on numerous occasions, at inappropriate times ( I don't know what times those are ?)

But, it sure shows up on the floor doesn't it when he's speaking later.

Democrat in clothes only. I know those types. I've witnessed them in my home state. I've meet them in my own state.. They make you want to puke 🤢
 

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Feel that way all you want.

But Harris really screwed up. If he was on the fence before, she just knocked him clean off it onto the GOP's side. Why she opened her mouth about it, especially in HIS STATE, is beyond mystifying.

It's right up there with MTG ranting about Q and who Q is. It's just stupid on a whole new level. I can't believe Joe Biden ever approved a cheap, stupid, moronic move like that.

That's the dumbest move by democrats I've seen in decades.
 

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Yes, he does.


Yes, he does.

LBJ would never in a million years draft a government handout to people making 350,000 dollars per year.

Biden's plan presently does that.

And it was a cheap, petty, dumbassed move for Harris to go on a pressure campaign against Manchin in his own back yard without ever having so much as talked to him.

That is the kind of moronic move that will make Manchin shoot down the dem majority to put Harris in her place.

CATEGORICALLY stupid and cheap move on her part.
There's a problem with what you're talking about.

You know what it is?

And, you'll see: First off, LBJ actually did. There was program called Medicare. The republicans used the same argument against it way back then. LBJ had to deal with democrats that sided with republicans they pulled the same damn shit argument then. LBJ said, NO MORE !! No more OLD PEOPLE laying out in fucking street dying! getting turned away.

He called the Joe Manchins up! and the Republicans and said, "You vote on this Medicare, or I'm pulling all your damn precious military bases out of your states in 48 hours !! I'm sending the damn trucks to gates of the military bases, with federal troops, immediately to move it all out with large trucks !! I'll have that vote or your people are out work, you worry how you're going too get re-elected then, and then I'm taking for federal departments out !! All of you. They pissed their pants.

That put an end to all of it. It was more than just Medicare! it was other public assistance! The Republican's wanted it means tested, based on income! And, you wanna know why ?? That way, they could "Claim that way they could keep the rich from not getting it; however the real reason was to keep to worker, the poor, and "the old people" from not getting Medicare !! Based on how much money they had in the bank !!!! To stop the from Medicare when turned 65 years old.

ALL politicians have done that...

LBJ himself has gone to states and campaigned for their bills... GEORGE W BUSH has campaigned for his bills.. He rolled across the country and had his vice president campaign to "privatize social security, and have it MEANS TESTED to where you don't get social security if you had too much money, making it a welfare program!" Republicans love it!

Bill Clinton did it. (campaigned state to state)

They all campaign around the country doing this stuff.

How many times have I told everyone what a TOE HEADED BUTT Joe Manchin was going to be! -- Get out out there and WIN the senate in full with more seats ('22), freely win more senate seats, and JOE Manchin with have set down and KEEP HIS GODMAN MOUTH SHUT!!!

The Republicans are always looking for the angle of making all these things about, Tax-brackets/ income brackets / categories / and such. That's why they want this stuff categorized as WELFARE !! If they can make it as WELFARE, that means it can be cut !!! on the people who are impacted the worst for it on the bottom.

That's why Social Security, Medicare, were never allowed to go that way. A BILLIONAIRE IS ALLOWED TO GET MEDICARE, AND SOCIAL SECURITY !! AND IT SHOULD BE. IT'S THAT WAY FOR A REASON !! AND I AGREE WITH IT FOR THIS REASON. DON'T LET THEM BEGIN TO START SAYING: NO SS OR MED. FOR BILLIONAIRES OR MILLIONARS, OR FOR PEOPLE OVER 300k/YEAR... BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT... GUESS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO THEN --- ?

They are going to turn right around and tell people making under 50K/ years Sorry, you get 50% less on your medicare/Social security in terms of what you get now !! And, everything else.

Now, do you understand ?

And, If you're not going to do that, then all be damn it to hell, YOU are not going to let those damn fricking Republicans take that damn money ( Not one goddamn dime ) away, those dollars will placed into another portion of the PLAN to help people on the bottom get a FEDERAL JOBS PROGRAM GOING AGAIN in the country.

Now, Joe Biden needs to wake the hell up and get the Federal Jobs program going again with the Federal Government, Thats your job JOE.

Be a damn FDR or an LBJ for damn change. You take that damn money and get those Federal Departments hiring those people again !!
 

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Yes. It doesn't make any sense because that's not what Manchin is talking about. It's completely irrelevant.

Joe simply said that he does agree with republicans that people making 350,000 dollars per year don't need a stimulus check and that the legislation should be more targeted towards people making 100,000 or less.

He's right.

That's it. That's his comment. That's all there is.

But Kamala Harris decided to go into his state and start trying to hamstring him (and it obviously worked on you) by saying he's betraying his people and betraying the democrats, and yada, yada, yada.

You're taking what Joe said and going off on a tangent.

Here's Joe's quote from your article:

"We met with his economic team and they put out what they wanted," Manchin said in response to Harris. "We want to help everyone that needs help. But if a person's making $250K or $300K, I don't think they're in much needs as a person making $40K or 50K. That's all I said. We're going to target."
 

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Yea, you're right. I'm just a fucking retarded idiot, boy for sure,,, What, fucking retard, I am.,
Buy, you're always right..

Why even do even bother posting.

I'm a fucking moron.

You know your right. I should leave this form.

But, maybe that's the objective ?

Besides, no one really posts here anyway.

Its best I leave.