The Great Population Cover-up: Two Years Later

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  1. Gomez_Adams says:

    I remember that. I can’t believe that thread is still there.

    You know, looking back at that there’s another observation: They also eliminated the player history from the API. Now when you search the API for population figures, it only goes back to 2015.

    They completely removed any evidence of population from the public for this game. To the public, as it sits, this game population wise has only existed for 2 years.

    It’s the single most blatant damage control cover up I’ve ever seen.

  2. Insurrectional_Leftist says:

    Here’s one other thing, ” Do you remember all those long PM conversations chases I made to Ghost Prime to find that Official Wargaming post about the record NA population post that was “Cherry Picked” and taken down, for him to retrieve as directed by her to do from this thread above ? Maybe I should look for some of those threads see I still haves some of those PM’s left?

    You should have heard some those excuses of why he could not find that link? He was supposed to be the person to retrieve that thread/link etc. Further corroboration that they had no intention of ever letting that official WG official post every see the light of day again.

  3. Gomez_Adams says:

    I remember going back and forth with him over several things. He’d always make some sort of lame excuse or say, “I’ll look into it” and then of course he unceremoniously vanished into thin air.

    Of course, that’s about the same exact time that NyxWGA stopped taking any messages, made a huge rant about how anime is great and everybody should love it, and then forbid anybody to ever discuss it in a bad light again.

    Then, she too vanished.

    It was, and is to this day, the most classless, chaotic, unprofessional run organization I’ve ever encountered. You would think they’re all 10 years old and just found out there’s no Santa Claus.

  4. Insurrectional_Leftist says:

    This thread was an “Epic” thread to be for sure. It was very revealing also of Wargaming’s inner nature in the WGNA office especially. How they operate, how far they were willing to go, how far they were going to cover things up, censor, lie, hide the facts, and say just about anything. The ends justifies the means set the course to the point where they are now.

    Speaking of which, there was another thread that NyxWGA was on with us, I’ll post that here when I find it that was also epic as well. I’ll try to search for it. Another Nyx fiasco thread. I’ll pause a few. Allow me to find it 1st and I’ll be in a while.

  5. Insurrectional_Leftist says:

    And here it is above ^ Another NyxWGA Special memorable thread. With her special “Boot Print” upon it. This one once again stars I_L, Gomez_Adams, CrankyOldYank, a few others, and a few other keystone shills …. This one speaks for itself once you start reading it. Basically, Nyx denies her part (and other WG employees conflict of interest of belonging to WOTLABS as WG employees, and denies the official conflict ethical conflict of interest).

  6. Thing 1 says:

    Yeah, because taking the side of a third party program you’re involved with isn’t a conflict of interest in the least.

    Stupid fucking bitch.

  7. Gomez_Adams says:

    Yeah, that was really, really bad on her part. You sit there and have a moderators account at Wotlabs, then you’re going to admin World of Tanks as well and say that’s not a conflict of interest?

    That is, sorry to say, narcissism and outright stupidity on a scale I’ve never seen outside of Trump’s presidency.

    As a representative of the company, your first, foremost and ONLY interest should be in the company, not some third party app that is very well known for creating the most toxic environment ever seen in the gaming world.

    But then again that just goes back to who Wargaming really are, doesn’t it? They’re Belorussian racist by birth and at heart. That is why they harbor racist, Nazi’s and child predators/perverts the way they do.

    It’s funny how people think they’re Russian. They are not. At all. In fact, Russians consider them to be trash and always have.

    Maybe that is why they created such a toxic environment to begin with: to finally get payback for being stomped on by others all their lives.

  8. Thing 1 says:

    Maybe that is why they created such a toxic environment to begin with: to finally get payback for being stomped on by others all their lives.

    That makes a shitload of sense. They’re all a bunch of depraved, perverted assholes that got picked on all their lives so they used this entire enterprise to fuck with people.

    Now that the gravy train is coming to a screeching fucking halt they’re firing people hand over fist trying to fix it.

    That’s the fucking hysterical part of it all: It’s THEY who are the fucking problem to begin with. Until THEY are gone nothing is ever, ever going to change.

  9. Mr_Alex says:

    @Thing1 and Gomez

    I have noticed that the WOWS NA Server on weekends used to have more than 10k players but lately it has become half of that and also in terms the server has become much more laggy if you know what I mean

  10. Thing 1 says:

    Didn’t they just ban like 5000 players for illegal mod use a week or two ago?

  11. Mr_Alex says:


    Some of them got unbanned and the devs said some were not caught using warpack

  12. Gomez_Adams says:

    Actually, nobody knows how many were banned, but it was a lot. To my calculations, about 26% of the player base. The numbers when I play dropped DRAMATICALLY.

    SOME of them were overturned due to the use of a program that changed the color intensity. (Which, frankly, I find highly suspicious. Why would you use a 3rd party app to do what you could do with a gamma adjustment or a tint knob in less than a few seconds?)

    A few of them were un-banned due to that app. But in the end, thousands were still banned and never reinstated.

    At the end of it all, I adjusted my estimate to 19.5% of the player base being banned for illegal mod use.

    It was a HUGE number of people, and that wasn’t all of them I’m sure. The population at all times dropped INSTANTLY from that and didn’t come anywhere near recovering fully even after the reinstatement of some accounts.

  13. Thing 1 says:

    A color correction app got caught as a cheat?

    I’m calling fucking bullshit. That’s a monitor thing. That’s got nothing to do with a fucking game and it’s software. If they detected that shit it’s because it was either being used to cover and hide cheats or it was itself somehow a cheat.

    No fucking way you use a color correction app and it contacts the fucking game server. NO FUCKING WAY.

    They’re a bunch of lying, cheating sons-of-bitches.

  14. Gomez_Adams says:

    I had considered the same exact thing.

  15. Scorpiany says:

    When it comes to my own experience with having Threads removed, it was pretty blanket-wise. Whether they were my guide posts, criticisms of the game, praises of the game or things completely unrelated to the game at all. I did have to PM one of the mods to reinstate all of my old guide Threads. I never attempted to restore any others, so I don’t know what they would have done there.

    That being said, at this point it is very clear that the game’s population is on a solid decline. The server merge here on NA, the extended queue times and the practically non-existent Grand Battles (STILL haven’t seen a single one) & Ranked Battles (2-3 minute queue times per match, mmm… What an active server population) have all made it very obvious that the server population is not where it once was.

    Not only is the server population smaller than it needs to be, but those who do still play seem less and less active. The game just isn’t nearly as fun as it once used to be. I find myself just… Disappointed every time I log in.

  16. Insurrectional_Leftist says:

    @ Scorpiany, I could not get any GB’s no matter how many tier X battles I would play ( I had the proper settings checked ), I would get a few all tier X battles on standard maps. I only saw 2 GB’s when the patch 1st dropped. That was it ! Never have since. And I don’t like how that map is designed. All that happens is the fast tanks run to the high positions on the map and slaughter everyone else, by sniping, spawning HEAT etc and so on. In the 2nd battle I finally got smart in my Maus, and crossed the back into the village area for buildings, lived longer, got more damage, and kills.

    But, I stopped playing a week ago, and I will not be back to play until after the next patch drops sometime around the 18th approx. The MM is what has me torqued off to be perfectly honest.

    My WR at 49, and my recent was 48.75 moving up suddenly crashes down to 46% ??? Forever, it never would fall below 48% for a recent.

    I tend to play a bit of tier 8 to make credits, I can tell you tier 8 there is definitely a problem for sure.

    And yes, I’ve mentally seen the math since the server merger, the NA population has been going down, I’ve been paying attention also.

  17. Mr_Alex says:

    @Thing1, have you seen this, notice that the shills start trying to discredit the OP

  18. Icon_Charlie says:

    Just read it and yea. Just like WoT

  19. Thing 1 says:

    Same game developer, same shills. Nothing changes in the hellholes run by Wargaming.

  20. PrinzEugen85 says:

    I remember that thread, what a back an forth civil war that was. It’s funny the thread contains a who’s who of people who post on this site.

  21. PrinzEugen85 says:

    @Leftist. I still play from time to time. The unified server at prime time hovers around 19-20k. That’s smaller than the pop of East alone around last year (feel free to tack on firm numbers).

  22. Zeedox says:

    I finally went and reread that thread.
    Wow, what’s really interesting is the amount of fanboi names you never see anymore.

  23. Thing 1 says:

    Yeah. They just keep rerolling and changing names and doing the same shit though. It’s like all the “community leaders”. They’re not actually new people – they’re just newly created accounts. They keep losing any and all credibility by being proven completely wrong over and over again. When they get to that point, they reroll and VOILA! A new community leader.

    It’s always been the same assholes doing the same shit since day one.

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